Title: Sweating with Cholinergic Urticaria: How to Sweat? Post by: Arntor on June 04, 2008, 02:38:21 AM Have only just stumled across what i called ‘heat rash’ has a real name, then it led me to this site! Cheers!
So, just wondering how much you all feel sweat is a factor in Cholinergic Urticaria?
I have noticed on some occasions when i have been sweating from exercise exercise Cholinergic Urticaria seems far less intense, if its there at all. This has only happened on a few occasions, for example when i’m riding my bike on a rainy day and wearing my raincoat. The raincoat stops any rain going in/moisture going out, so when i take my coat off i’m covered in sweat and have no Cholinergic Urticaria, however my legs do seen as they were just in ordinary cotton.
So, i swear there is a link between lack of sweating and my Cholinergic Urticaria, however my dermotologist said there wasn’t! So just asking if anybody else thinks the same? or am i just wrong?
Update: Here’s a video on sweat therapy:
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Title: Re: Importance Of Sweat? Post by: Torim on June 04, 2008, 03:51:06 AM I have noticed this as well. If it did not happen I would not be able to workout.
someone said it was about blocked pores, someone else said it was stuff touching nerve endings.
either way, the more i sweat, the less intense it feels- agreed.
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Title: Re: Importance Of Sweat? Post by: HivesGuy on June 04, 2008, 08:25:28 PM Thanks for the great post everyone & welcome to the forum Torim & Arntor!
I definitely know that sweating can decrease cholinergic urticaria symptoms. In fact, I have been almost breakout free the past couple of weeks, and sweating quite regularly. People have also posted about the benefits of using a steam capsule or sauna to induce sweating regularly (although one would have to use extreme caution).
The temperature where I live has been in the high 80’s to mid 90’s, and I have been making a point to get outside & absorb more sun & sweat.
So far, the results have been great. I have hardly even thought about the hives when I go outside. The next thing I know, I am busy doing something and sweat droplets are forming on my forehead. It feels FANTASTIC to sweat. Wow, that was probably a couple of years since I have had a good sweat like that.
Anyways, I am hoping to clean up my diet some (avoiding milk & more junk food since I am lactose intolerant), and I plan to continue getting sun exposure & staying outside to sweat more often.
It gives me a lot of hope, and I feel that one day this whole cholinergic urticaria episode in my life will be a distant memory (hopefully).
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Title: Re: Importance Of Sweat? Post by: jga on June 05, 2008, 07:09:55 PM I think sweat is the key, I’ve noticed when I take antihistamines I will just get red dots and a couple very very small clear bubbles (neither of them itch), it seems histamine just kicks in to raise the bumps and cause the itchiness but the sweat ducts still are getting blocked so that’s why my skin still gets some sort of reaction even when histamine is controlled. I posted this earlier:
Quote Cholinergic urticaria is the little red blotchies that some folks get in a hot shower or on exercising. They start on the chest and spread, and may be accompanied by parasympathetic stuff. Long a minor mystery of medicine, it’s now clear that the real cause is obstruction of the outlet of the sweat ducts, especially when sweating occurs infrequently (Dermatology 204: 173, 2002).
I just wish there was a way to un-obstruct those sweat ducts. I’ve tried forcing to sweat but I only sweat from my head, armpits, and feet still (they’re the only places sweat seem to come out, everywhere else is dry and then just gets those red blotches until it leads to the bumps everywhere if I stay any longer in the heat or keep exercising)
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Title: Re: Importance Of Sweat? Post by: HivesGuy on June 06, 2008, 07:53:08 PM Yeah, I am not sure if that product would be worth it or not. I am kinda nervous about putting products like that on my skin. Plus it ain’t too cheap, and God knows I have tried my share of “cures.”
The only thing about the clogged sweat glands is…why don’t this happen to everyone?? That is the only thing that frustrates me. It seems sweating is related to this, but why doesn’t everyone get the hives like us? Why just a relative handful of people.
Think of all the people sitting in a nursing home, or with indoor jobs, or kids that never go outside, etc. Why don’t they have this, and yet we do??
That is the one question I wish I could find out. That is why I think that sweating is involved, but perhaps something else as well. Maybe something causing the sweat glands to shrink, become blocked, etc.
Thanks for the great post by the way. I have read that website a couple of times before, because I remember that comment about the sweat glands being blocked.
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Title: Re: Importance Of Sweat? Post by: brockham on June 07, 2008, 05:48:59 AM I personally, have NO problem with sweating at all. I sweat really, really easily but i still get the red dots all over my skin. But my Cholinergic Urticaria doesnt itch/sting as much as everyone else’s it would seem, which im guessing is because i sweat quite a bit. hhmm.
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Title: Re: Incase any of you weren’t conviced… Post by: Sunny on June 07, 2008, 11:08:24 AM I’ve had these odd little bubbles too!
I used to live in a building with a sauna in the basement, the kind where you throw water on the stove stones to really get the heat out. That’s some severe heat and humidity, so yes, it made me sweat and itch for the first couple of minutes, but then the feeling always passed the hotter it got and I was fine. The hot air in the sauna felt great on my itching skin for some reason, though it wasn’t any long term remedy as I could get another itch just as easily as before, the next time I felt a bit warmer.
Anyway, after having come out from the sauna and feeling normal again, I noticed that (at least) my arms were full of these transparent little bubbles. If I didn’t do anything, they disappeared after a while, or if I scratched or so much as rubbed a bit, they broke, so they’re really on the surface. But since they never hurt or felt like anything at all really, broken or not, I never paid much attention to them. I don’t remember having them before I developed Cholinergic Urticaria though, so maybe they are somehow related indeed!
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Title: Re: Importance Of Sweat? Post by: HivesGuy on June 10, 2008, 06:27:54 AM Yeah, I wonder sometimes if maybe some chemical changed my sweat glands. But I can only come up with 2 possible things, and they both happened several months before I ever had my first outbreak.
The first was I was going on my senior trip to the beach after high school graduation. My friends & I went to a tanning bed. There was some kind of tingle accelerator tan lotion that I applied to my skin. Afterwards, my skin was red & burning hot. After a few hours it quit, and again, that was at least 8 months before my first outbreak (I know a dumb thing to do, and I will NEVER visit a tanning bed or put weird lotion on).
The second is one time for a short period of time, I tried this strong deodorant. I used to have excessive sweat from my underarms. I mean they would sweat like crazy all day. So I tried this extra strong deodorant that is supposed to stop it. It did work when I put the deodorant on, but it made my underarms itchy. So I stopped using that. That was probably about 1 year before I ever got a Cholinergic Urticaria outbreak.
So sometimes I wonder if the Cholinergic Urticaria is linked to one of the above things?? But I guess I will never know. But if everyone else that has had Cholinergic Urticaria HASN’T done those things & still have it, it makes me think that those things aren’t related. Who knows?? It is so frustrating just trying to figure out WHY we have it.
If I at least knew, okay it is genetic, or Okay it can be fixed, or whatever…I think it would be a little better. Just not knowing what is going on, whether it will go away, etc. is sometimes the worst part.
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Title: Re: Importance Of Sweat? Post by: brockham on June 10, 2008, 01:39:45 PM Quote from: HivesGuy on June 10, 2008, 06:27:54 AM
The second is one time for a short period of time, I tried this strong deodorant. I used to have excessive sweat from my underarms..
EXACTLY, the same for me! My Cholinergic Urticaria began roughly a year after i started using extra strong deodorant. I was using ‘PerspireX’, what did you use? I dont know whether to stop using it, but i sweat unbearably without it. This is quite weird that both of us got Cholinergic Urticaria a year after using something for excessive sweating, which is a relativley rare thing anyway. hhmm. In other news ive been hives free for about 4 days and its been like 28 degrees celcius at times. woop.
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Title: Re: Importance Of Sweat? Post by: HivesGuy on June 10, 2008, 04:45:05 PM Quote from: brockham on June 10, 2008, 01:39:45 PM Quote from: HivesGuy on June 10, 2008, 06:27:54 AM
The second is one time for a short period of time, I tried this strong deodorant. I used to have excessive sweat from my underarms..
EXACTLY, the same for me! My Cholinergic Urticaria began roughly a year after i started using extra strong deodorant. I was using ‘PerspireX’, what did you use? I dont know whether to stop using it, but i sweat unbearably without it. This is quite weird that both of us got Cholinergic Urticaria a year after using something for excessive sweating, which is a relativley rare thing anyway. hhmm. In other news ive been hives free for about 4 days and its been like 28 degrees celcius at times. woop.
Yes, I used to sweat really bad under my arms. It seemed like there was always one of those “wet” armpit looks. It was kinda embarrasing. Especially because I was a person in regular shape.
Anyways, now it is weird, I would love to sweat like I used to. Because there never used to be any itchyness.
As far as the brand, I can’t remember because it was like 7 years ago & I really didn’t pay attention. I actually tried to remember a while back because I was going to do some googling on whether anyone else that used it had a similar problem of hives that used it. But I can’t remember the name. I know I bought it off the web & it was for the extra bad sweating. It seems like it cost around $15-19 at the time. It may have been maxim or some other brand. It had the higher dose of chemical in it than regular deodorant. It did really cut down on the sweating, but made my armpits itchy so I quit using it. This has been so long, in a way I would think it wouldn’t still be affecting me if the Cholinergic Urticaria is from the deodorant. But who knows?
I wonder if there is a connection here??? Anyone else ever use an extra-strong deodorant??
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Title: Re: Importance Of Sweat? Post by: HivesGuy on June 10, 2008, 07:05:06 PM Yeah, I think most of us have a lot of trouble sweating. It seems the itching happens in place of the sweating mostly.
Although recently I have been sweating more. It has been about 95 degrees & very muggy which causes moisture to naturally form on your skin. So I have sweat a little more than usual. But today in fact I got a little itchy again before sweating.
But I am like you Threesixmafia, I hardly sweat. I could probably exercise for an hour straight & not have a drop of sweat. Which is kinda weird. My skin will get warm, I will get itchy, but usually not any sweat (or very very little).
It is extremely hard for me to sweat, the only exception being on very hot & muggy days where the moisture natually builds on your skin & the heat literally forces you to sweat.
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Title: Re: Importance Of Sweat?
The second is one time for a short period of time, I tried this strong deodorant. I used to have excessive sweat from my underarms..
EXACTLY, the same for me! My Cholinergic Urticaria began roughly a year after i started using extra strong deodorant. I was using ‘PerspireX’, what did you use? I dont know whether to stop using it, but i sweat unbearably without it. This is quite weird that both of us got Cholinergic Urticaria a year after using something for excessive sweating, which is a relativley rare thing anyway. hhmm. In other news ive been hives free for about 4 days and its been like 28 degrees celcius at times. woop.
Yes, I used to sweat really bad under my arms. It seemed like there was always one of those “wet” armpit looks. It was kinda embarrasing. Especially because I was a person in regular shape.
Anyways, now it is weird, I would love to sweat like I used to. Because there never used to be any itchyness.
As far as the brand, I can’t remember because it was like 7 years ago & I really didn’t pay attention. I actually tried to remember a while back because I was going to do some googling on whether anyone else that used it had a similar problem of hives that used it. But I can’t remember the name. I know I bought it off the web & it was for the extra bad sweating. It seems like it cost around $15-19 at the time. It may have been maxim or some other brand. It had the higher dose of chemical in it than regular deodorant. It did really cut down on the sweating, but made my armpits itchy so I quit using it. This has been so long, in a way I would think it wouldn’t still be affecting me if the Cholinergic Urticaria is from the deodorant. But who knows?
I wonder if there is a connection here??? Anyone else ever use an extra-strong deodorant??
I used it once just on my armpit when I was like 12, I don’t think there is a connection though cause my Cholinergic Urticaria started at around 17 and my armpits are one of the few places I never get hives on, I think cause I am able to naturally sweat there. I still sweat, just in a few select regions.
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Title: Re: Importance Of Sweat? Post by: HivesGuy on June 12, 2008, 01:20:02 PM Quote from: threesixmafia on June 11, 2008, 11:33:31 PM hey hibesguy, does the exercize regimen work for you then? please say yes!
Well, it depends. My cholinergic urticaria tends to vary. I think a lot has to do with temperatures, diet, & how often I have been sweating.
For example, sometimes (especially in the winter), I can walk into a hot room, get excited, laugh, or anything else that slightly raises my body temperature, and I can breakout in the most intense stinging/prickling (very painful) sensation.
Then some days, it gets a little prickly & is easier to control. Then again, some days, (the especially hot & very humid/muggy days), I can sometimes go directly to sweating.
I think that sweating it out can provide some benefits, but it can be hard to do. Especially during cold months. I can literally try to exercise with an intense weight lifting/cardio workout & not drop a sweat.
In fact, it seems the only time I do sweat is when the temperature/humidity is extremely high.
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Title: Re: Importance Of Sweat? Post by: threesixmafia on June 12, 2008, 04:28:11 PM anyone try swimming of any sorts?
when your swimming you actually sweat a lot, but the water is cold. i’m afraid that i’ll like drown though, taht’s why i’m afraid to try it, anybody give it a try before?
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Title: Re: Importance Of Sweat? Post by: jga on June 14, 2008, 05:19:34 PM
anyone try swimming of any sorts?
when your swimming you actually sweat a lot, but the water is cold. i’m afraid that i’ll like drown though, taht’s why i’m afraid to try it, anybody give it a try before?
I haven’t tried it yet. But it will be hard to tell if your constant sweating is working or if the coldness of the water is just preventing your from getting hives. Try swimming in hot water to isolate the variable of coldness.
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Title: Re: Importance Of Sweat? Post by: HivesGuy on June 14, 2008, 06:19:10 PM Quote from: threesixmafia on June 12, 2008, 04:28:11 PM anyone try swimming of any sorts?
when your swimming you actually sweat a lot, but the water is cold. i’m afraid that i’ll like drown though, taht’s why i’m afraid to try it, anybody give it a try before?
Yes, I have tried swimming. But I think that if the water is cold it prevents a Cholinergic Urticaria attack simply because your overall body temp. stays cool. But if you swim in hot water, you can definitely still break out.
I remember once being in a hot tub for a while. I eventually got itchy. But I have swam in cool water, and I didn’t even breakout. Also when you get out of the water your body continues to stay cool because the water from the pool evaporates from your skin & cools it (kind of like sweat does, but the only problem is most of us have trouble sweating).
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Title: New fitness regime giving me 75% relief from Cholinergic Urticaria Post by: L421 on December 12, 2008, 07:52:33 AM I have now started to noticed improvement,I wear 3 layers of clothing during 1 hours intesive treadmil and I Now sweat buckets I really do feel better although I still get bad days it isnt a cure although it was a cure for 2 years ago a complete cure! sweating cured me,but the dreaded pins came back twice a bad.
1. if you havent tried sweating do it, it works
2. Try putting on extra layers of clothing keep hydrated and sweat this Horrid infliction back to where it came from.
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Title: my story (happy ending!) Post by: vanbasten on December 31, 2008, 09:27:59 AM
Hello people i’m Italian, i’m 29, i heavily suffered cholinergic U from 18 to 20. I havent read all of this siteforum, so i’m sorry if i repeat a similar experience of some other ex-sufferer. But i will tell you my story so maybe anyone out there can find confort or (why not?) a solution. When the first attack occurs, i had a lot of psychological problems fading away (anxiety depression panic attacks, since i was 16). I ended my psycho problems when i was 18, at that point orticaria came. Obviously doctors told me that my skin problems was totally related with anxiety. This was only partially true. Let’s explain why. I was 20, i ended to go out of my home, i was going in the street or in the bus with fresh water spray only, like most of you i think. ERROR. You have to sweat. Don’t cool your body. All has been spontaneous, no one told me how to cure my urticaria. In my opinion, you can eat everything. Foodalcohol is not related. So. I started to make several exercises in my room, then i started to go out and run, often in summer with 40 degrees. The sensation was to ‘free something’ inside of me. I noted that the pain, during continous attacks caused by exercises, slightly decreases. A sort of ‘habit’. This gave me courage. It was like to fight an invisible enemy. Use all your body force! After 2 week all symptoms ended!
In the last 9 years i had 2 or 3 very light attacks. It make me laugh! ;D The difference is that now i know how to fight the problem, and this mean that the mind have a great role in the matter. Let your body express completely and use your mind to ignore the pain, this has been the key for me. Thank you, sorry for maccheroni english ๐ and please use my suggestions.
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Title: Re: my story (happy ending!) Post by: vanbasten on January 02, 2009, 03:35:10 AM Thank you Hivesguy, i’m happy to give my suggestion ’cause i know how its bad the urticaria condition. One last suggestion regarding the physical exercise related to attacks. In order to avoid pain, a person may stop activity when the attack is coming. It’s better don’t stop in that moment, ignore the momentary pain and go ahead stronger than before. In my experience, was very useful to insist just during the attack. I understood that attacks are not strictly proportional to phisical activity. So, if you insist, you will discover that after many minutes of exercise you will have only 1 attack, and that will be necessary many more effort to provoke hives after this.
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Title: Re: my story (happy ending!) Post by: HivesGuy on January 02, 2009, 04:33:53 PM
Thank you Hivesguy, i’m happy to give my suggestion ’cause i know how its bad the urticaria condition. One last suggestion regarding the physical exercise related to attacks. In order to avoid pain, a person may stop activity when the attack is coming. It’s better don’t stop in that moment, ignore the momentary pain and go ahead stronger than before. In my experience, was very useful to insist just during the attack. I understood that attacks are not strictly proportional to phisical activity. So, if you insist, you will discover that after many minutes of exercise you will have only 1 attack, and that will be necessary many more effort to provoke hives after this.
Thanks for the follow up! I agree that if we can go through an attack and allow the sweat to come out, it can usually ease the reaction and we will tend to sweat naturally for the rest of the day.
The only exception is that some people that have cholinergic urticaria also go into anaphylactic shock (which means swelling of lips/face/throat). In that case, those people need to stop when they feel a reaction coming on, or else they could have a bad reaction and die from suffocation.
I really hope to experiment with this a more this coming summer (about 3-5 months), and I will definitely keep everyone updated.
Quote from: dice on January 02, 2009, 09:21:28 AM It’s posts like this that are inspiring me to try out new and different tactics to prevent Cholinergic Urticaria, rather than just visiting the doctors everytime.
Problem is that it’s so cold outside that it really would take an even greater amount of effort to produce sweat…
I agree about the cold weather thing. It makes it really hard to stay warm or induce sweating. My apartment stays at about 55 degrees during winter, and it is much colder outside. So I tend to be very cold all the time, and when I heat up—BAM—-a bad reaction happens.
But hopefully this summer that is all going to change!
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Title: Re: my story (happy ending!) Post by: Newear2006 on January 07, 2009, 02:59:50 PM Ok Vanbasten, Thats it! I am going to full power it! I have been doing yoga and walking and running so that when the urticaria comes I can back off.
My face gets flushed hot and totally distorted like I am an alien or something?, I feel very self concious and like to hide myself till the attack is over, but I am going to break through soon, I am going to try a new herb from, the Himalayas, in ayurveda they say it cures pretty much any disease (sounds like snake oil, I know). I will keep you guys posted on my progress.
Thanks for the inspiration Vanbasten??
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Title: Re: Importance Of Sweat? Post by: tyaa on March 12, 2009, 12:28:00 AM well from my past 5 years experience of having urticaria i have noticed that yes there is a link between sweat and Cholinergic Urticaria..
what i personally do is that i start workout in winters..this way i do sweat in the beginning but soon go in ac room so that i don’t develop hives..i continue this and have observed that the Cholinergic Urticaria attack keeps on going milder and milder and soon i stop getting hives . so i guess if we continue workout it’s advantageous for us at least for me..!this way i dont get frequent Cholinergic Urticaria attacks during summers..
BUT YEAH IF WE DON’T DO ANY PHYSICAL ACTIVITY IT MAKES US MORE SENSITIVE TO HEAT..SO ATLEAST WE CAN SPARE SOME TIME FOR EXERCISE AND DO NOT WORRY ABOUT HIVES..JUST DON’T THINK ABOUT IT BECAUSE THE MORE WE THINK, THE MORE WE FEEL.
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Title: Re: Importance Of Sweat? Post by: Honkymagoo on April 23, 2009, 09:36:16 PM The only places I still sweat from are my underarms and my.. uh… my “boys.” Even when I work out I never push myself to try to sweat because the pain is so intense. I think this summer I’m going to try some sweat therapy. I hadn’t even thought of it until coming to this forum. I’ve just been trying my hardest for the past couple years to avoid heat at all costs.
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Title: Re: Importance Of Sweat? Post by: Honkymagoo on April 24, 2009, 06:24:50 PM Quote from: HivesGuy on April 24, 2009, 08:56:15 AM I have recently noticed that my palms tend to sweat sometimes. My armpits also sweat after a while, but not as bad as they used to before I got hives.
Yeah, my palms still sweat just fine (I play a lot of video games so I get sweaty palms all the time.) I actually used to sweat TOO MUCH before the Cholinergic Urticaria started. On hot days in High School I’d have gigantic pit stains by 3rd period if I wasn’t careful. Even antiperspirants didn’t seem to help all that much. I guess one upside of the Cholinergic Urticaria is that I don’t get excessive sweat anymore but I didn’t want it to not happen at all.
I just find it strange that I’m able to sweat in certain places without the sting. More specifically, it’s areas where I DO NOT have chicken skin. I wonder if it’s related? Though, I don’t sweat from my head / face either despite never getting outbreaks above my neck.
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Title: Re: Importance Of Sweat? Post by: Honkymagoo on April 25, 2009, 08:38:08 PM Quote from: jga on April 24, 2009, 11:54:49 PM My palms and feet manage to sweat fine too and those are the places I don’t get hives. Those areas don’t have oil glands so maybe hives has something to do with oil glands???
Possibly. It could be a mixture of that and the dry skin / chicken skin. But if that were the case I’d be getting head hives too, right? My hives stay below my neck.
Also, I actually managed to get to the point of sweating at work today. It hit 90+ in New Jersey and since I work in a pizza shop the ovens make it really hot inside. I took a Zyrtec before work and let my body gradually heat up while I was working (I made a few runs to the bathroom to wet myself down and had the AC pumped to full in the car while I was driving.) After a while the hives stopped happening, I stopped using the AC in the car, I stopped applying water and I broke a small sweat on my forehead. Didn’t have another outbreak for the next 3-4 hours of work.
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Title: No Cholinergic Urticaria Breakouts today!!!! Post by: MoshiMoshi on June 13, 2009, 12:41:17 PM Wow, what a day! I finally had enough of Cholinergic Urticaria and decided that i had to do something. It was too hot to even stay inside without a fan blazing at me, so i decided to just go outside and play ball.
1st attempt – started to have a breakout after 10 minutes of light playing, so I cooled myself with cooling spray and went back indoors
2nd attempt – i was playing reaallly really lightly and whenever i felt even a slight tingle i just slowed it down even more or just took a break. Then as i did this for about 30 minutes, I felt the threshold looming, but i didnt get any itchiness.. So i continued playing and got more intensive, and realised that no matter how hot i got, I wasn’t breaking out. So being the guy that i am i spent 3 hours continually playing intensive ball and an hour working out to make the most of my hives free day! After all this I checked to see if i was sweating, and i found out that my legs and back were absolutely flowing with sweat.
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Title: Re: No Breakouts today!!!! Post by: jga on July 12, 2009, 10:28:14 PM yep so true about regular exercise
today I worked out for the first time in a long time (pulled a muscle a week ago again this year so stayed away from the weights for a while) and wow the hives just came up after a few bench presses then covered my entire body. No sweat either. When I lift regularly there is a good amount of sweat and the hives are limited to a few on my arms. Haven’t had the hives all over my entire body like this since the last time I had to take a break from weightlifting.
In my next workout session, I’m gonna try to be real intense, get the sweat flowing.
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Title: The Winter Phenomenon Post by: TheJazz on January 05, 2010, 07:16:10 PM I have been reading many posts on this site today, and I must say, i am quite glad i found it! I have read many stories about people being “cured” of their Cholinergic Urticaria by sweating, or being in the sun (which usually induces sweating). Thinking about it, it makes a ton of sence. I first noticed my Cholinergic Urticaria last winter, though i didn’t know what it was, and it wasn’t nearly as brutal as it is this winter. Also, throughout the spring, summer, and even the fall, i have been completely free from the dreaded itching. To further confirm my own beliefe in the “sweat theory”, today in my weight training class, the hall we run in was cooler than usual, resulting in a mild itch that i was able to push through. We then just did push ups and sit ups today, mild exercise, and though not much, i noticed a very slight dampness on my back. Such a small amount of sweat, but i most certainly noticed it. I also havnt broken out in itching since then, about 7 hours ago. So the being in the sun and getting yourself to sweat seems to work wonders… but there is one problem… It’s winter and where i live it is only 10 degrees outside, I was wondering if anyone had any stories and methods of getting themselves to stay active adn sweat throughout the winter. I have no workout equiptment at home, and my class today was just a freak occurence, for it is usually very hot in that hallway when we run, resulting in pure brutality across my skin. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! I will keep posted if I happen to stumble across something.
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Title: Re: The Winter Phenomenon Post by: dice on January 05, 2010, 07:52:15 PM I also find exercising in a hot room will also speed up the sweating process, so use your heater/radiator if you have one available.
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Title: looking for advice please Post by: jcatterm on March 15, 2010, 03:40:58 AM
Hi guys
Iโm planning to try a few treatments and I’d like to get feedback on the best way please. I’d really appreciate any feedback / pointers you can give.
1. How much sweat? One of the techniques that a lot of people on this Forum seem to promote is to actually make your body sweat as opposed to avoiding it. From what I can gather the theory is that it both opens up the sweat glands and desensitises the body to the reaction.
The question I have is how far should I push it? How much sweat should I try and go for? Should I push it as hard as I can, sweat heaps and just push through the pain of the weals and go for as long as I can? Or should I stop once I start to feel the symptoms building up?
2. How do you cool down? After Iโve finished exercising should I jump in the shower straight away or should I try and keep my body heat up as long as I can stand the pain?
Also, should the shower be cold so I cool down quickly or should it be warm to encourage more sweating? Both seem to have pros and cons
3. Moisturisers and lotions Iโve been putting moisturiser on because my skin is extremely dry. Iโve found this very soothing. After Iโve showered should I use moisturiser or not? If not what can I do to avoid the very dry skin?
Iโd love detailed feedback on these questions. The more specific you can be the betterโฆ. and any other techniques you can suggest would be very welcome
Thanks everyone
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Title: Re: looking for advice please Post by: HivesGuy on March 15, 2010, 04:53:22 AM Great questions J,
1. How much sweat?
First of all, let me stress something I always try to add: If you ever get the swelling feeling or go into anaphylactic shock (as it sounds like you did at one point-albeit without exercising), you need to be extraordinarily careful. I would talk to your doctor about perhaps getting an “epi-pen.” This is a small device that you can use to inject yourself with adrenaline if you ever start having a severe reaction where you can’t breathe. So that is really important, and I would talk to your doctor about that (and the exercise routine) for sure before you ever attempt to do this. Safety first!
In terms of my own experience–I do seem to stop having reactions once the sweat comes out (at least for that day). The length of time I have to endure the hives vary based on things like temperature, humidity levels. and my own sensitivity at the time. If it is very hot and humid, I can sometimes go directly into sweating. If it is cooler and less humid, I may endure an attack for a long time (and I may never sweat). So it does vary a lot.
So I think it really depends on your own body, and we are all different. Some would suggest to push as hard as you can until you sweat. I would probably recommend you listen to your body. If your reaction gets worse and worse, you may want to ease off and take it slow. If you feel like you can safely handle it, you may be able to keep going until sweat comes out. Again, I think you will find that your ability to sweat will vary depending on your own sensitivity and factors such as temperature and humidity.
Many days it is so cool, I don’t even try to sweat. On a hot sunny day, I usually push through because I know I will be able to get a good soaking sweat (which usually feels great).
2. How do you cool down?
In all honesty, I have never really considered it before. I usually bathe once a day, and I don’t usually do it immediately after a sweat. I would say just take a regular shower to clean off. And if you want, you can always try taking a cool shower, or a hot shower, and see which one seems to be best for you. But I have never really thought about that or tried it before. I just take regular (warm) showers. So my guess is luke-warm would be best.
Extreme heat may cause bacterial buildup, as some bacteria multiply fast during the heat (which may then clog your pores). So in that way, excess shower heat could be bad. But it is a good question.
And after I sweat, I just usually cool down naturally (if I don’t immediately take a shower). I just go on to doing something else.
3. Moisturizers & Lotions
Yes, I have very dry skin as well (something I think we all tend to share). My skin used to be oily, but now it remains very dry. In fact, I often wonder if this lack of oil isn’t perhaps somehow connected too.
Anyway, what I do is I apply lotion immediately after a shower. I use Eucerin. The stuff is rather pricey (like $8 a bottle), but it does seem to moisturize a bit better than other lotions (for me anyway).
It doesn’t cure the hives or anything, but it does a good job at moisturizing my skin, and it seems to keep it a bit cooler for a few hours, which does slightly help reduce attacks.
I hope that helps!
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Title: Re: No Cholinergic Urticaria Breakouts today!!!! Post by: MoshiMoshi on March 30, 2010, 02:38:26 PM Thnx HivesGuy ๐
Quote I have a few questions though if you feel up to answering them that’d be great.
Do you work out in the winter time or is it just in the summer months? And do you stop working out when the hives start or do you just work out through them? Sorry if you mention that in a previous post but its late and I miss words sometimes when I’m tired lol.
– I can work out up to a point in winter, then it just becomes too much. At this point no matter what I try, I can’t sweat, and only injure myself trying to do so.
-There are only certain times of the year when I can work out with hives then I begin to sweat. In the winter, no chance, no sweat comes out. But when my hives have just started coming back, or are just about to clear up, I can work out through the hives.
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Title: Re: No Cholinergic Urticaria Breakouts today!!!! Post by: Adamkara on March 31, 2010, 11:15:30 AM @slaugsb: Some people have reported having trouble breathing when an outbreak occurs but everyone is different and there’s no way for anyone else to tell until you try it I guess. If you don’t know though maybe if you try exercising have someone with you who knows about it just in case there is a problem. And when I was able to work out I would just work through the pain until I sweated. If I hadn’t worked out in a week then the first time it would be really painful and a really bad reaction. Then each following day would be less until it was easy for me to sweat and the breakouts became milder. But that’s just me and there’s no way in telling what may happen with someone else.
@Moshi: I found that same problem that it is much harder to sweat in the winter time. I went out and shoveled for almost an hour and it was that heavy snowfall that’s a pain to shovel. It was probably the worst breakout I’ve ever had because of that hot/cold burning from being in the cold. I did find however that I could sweat if I worked out indoors in my local fitness center. The first time I’d work out it’d be hard to sweat but each day after it would get easier. I’d where two shirts and sweat pants when I did then just so I could sweat more.
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Title: Re: No Cholinergic Urticaria Breakouts today!!!! Post by: MoshiMoshi on March 31, 2010, 02:31:15 PM @Adam
Yep, it seems to be the same for both of us and I assume most of us. Were you still able to sweat in the fitness center in winter?
@Slaugsb
If you encounter any trouble with breathing during an attack then try as much as you can to prevent getting too hot. And yes I do push through the pain sometimes, but as Adam said sometimes its easier to break a sweat at certain times than others. Usually when its super hard to break a sweat it feels like your skin is completely bone dry during the attack, but when its easier to sweat you feel an atmosphere of moisture around your body during the attack?
Thats the only way I can describe it
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Title: Re: No Cholinergic Urticaria Breakouts today!!!! Post by: Adamkara on March 31, 2010, 03:27:51 PM At first I was really nervous I couldn’t sweat. I came so close to passing out the first time I worked out because I got overheated. I didn’t give up and went back and tried slowing down and was able to sweat some, enough not to get overheated and light headed. Every time I worked out then after I was able to sweat well enough to be comfortable although I noticed certain parts of my body like my arms didn’t really sweat normally. I think most importantly I was able to sweat on my chest and head but as long as I kept working out 4-6 times a week rigorously, my symptoms were so much better. If I didn’t work out for about a week it was back to square one where I’d have that awful day one of overheating. Honestly it could be a gamble though. I didn’t pass out but I wouldn’t want someone else to pass out but once I start sweating it would completely subside. I would work out for 3-4 hours a day and had no problems after working out and during working out.
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Title: The Sweat Just Stopped. Post by: Anthropomorphuck on April 04, 2010, 10:11:05 AM I used to be a competitive runner. 16:04 5k, 9:07 3k, 9:59 steeple chase…Then I just stopped sweating.
As an athlete and a licensed sports massage therapist I have always listened to my body. I stopped running about two years back because of the lack of sweating.
My symptoms include at it’s worst the following: A burning sensation. Like being burnt by hot oil or stuck my needles. “Wildfire” is what I have found it has been described as. After the wildfire sensation my body swells up. My face turns white and red and becomes swollen. If its bad my arms will join in and if its really bad my whole body will swell up with what look like..well its hard to describe. Sometimes I think it looks like as if I had bad acne and my face is now scarred up. Sometimes it looks like the outside of an orange. Sometimes it looks like goosebumps. From what I understand it’s my sweat getting trapped under my skin because my sweat pores are too excited to let my body secrete sweat. I guess this would be considered heat hives. I’ve managed to find a name for something that matches the signs and symptoms and even onset exactly. Miliara Profundus.
My onset: I’ve always struggled in the heat. I have always performed poorly in humid hot conditions (who doesnt?) I began to get the wildfire sensation around summer of 07′ when I began training after two years off. I progressively got worse. The wildfire would keep me awake for weeks and at this point I had moved to Miami and had to live in a friends garage because I didn’t have much other options. I was still able to train and live my life normally until I went up to PA to work at a camp. I trained throughout that summer and when I came back I ran one workout and nearly went to the hospital. I took over an hour for my body to cool down. It was probably one of the most painful things I have experienced. I just thought it was because I slacked off during the summer and was a little out of shape. Month went by and as the wildfire subsided I sweat less and less. First my arms would be the only thing that would sweat, then my hands, and now my armpits are the only thing that really get moist during any sort of activities. What is interesting is that I went back to that camp the following year and was able to sweat and be relatively active. Thus I attribute most of my problems to the humidity of Florida. Things I’ve tryed or noticed: I’ve heard anhydrous lanolin could help I just have never bought it. Drinking more water/electrolytes. University of Miami endocrinologist and neurologist, a dermatologist, and two general doctors. Being in the sun alone can trigger the heat hives. I can be active outside now for small spurts but it can get very uncomfortable. Sometimes when I go inside after an activity my body will begin to regulate a bit. My heart will take less time to slow down (sometimes my heart has stayed above 100bpm for 30+minutes) and my stomach area and lower back will get a little damp. One doctor suggested to get an MRI to see if I had a tumor. I think I’ll leave that as a last resort. I think thats a little extreme. Ive tryed clariten. I afraid of benedryl because the last time I took it I broke out in shingles. ick. I’ve tried non-scented hypoallergenic soaps and lotions. Running and training indoors. Epson salt baths. Some anhidrosis tips from taking care of horses. Horses tend to have trouble sweating in Florida because of the heat and humidity. Odd and maybe unrelated signs/symptoms: My right nipple has been flaky and dry since I returned from the camp the first time. I healed while I was away in PA the following summer (as did my sweating/swelling issues) and has returned since I’ve been back in FL. Since I assume this has to do with some sort of parasympathetic nervous response…I sometimes get wildfire in my feet after having sex with my girlfriend…
So thats mostly my story. I’m sure bits and pieces have been left out but you get the point. I hope if anything that helps someone else if they anything similar to this.
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Title: Today gave me hope when i had lost it Post by: Snuff on May 04, 2010, 07:02:22 PM Ok today i knew i had to go to the Bank. so i went outside! and standed there in the sun and after a while the outbreak like stoped completly So i started doing jumping jacks and i wasnt having a problem and then i noticed some sweat between my legs and my pits and my head it was hardly nothing but it was there! and i went to the bank and told my mom to leave the A/C off and rolled up windows and i went in the bank got my info blah blah then she asked me how i was doing and i said great so we went to other places. we were out for almost an hour and i was hot the whole time and i felt mostly all fine! except for a few random itches that werent painful. So that gave me hope when i needed it the most:) Imma keep trying this idk when but very very soon:) It wasnt even that hard to sweat that small amount and not that painful!
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Title: Re: Today gave me hope when i had lost it Post by: HivesGuy on May 05, 2010, 04:22:00 AM That is great that you were able to sweat snuff!
I have noticed this is my personal formula for sweat: High heat + high humidity=sweating easily. Low humidity + high heat=hives.
You may even be able to get relief like this for the entire summer, as many people with Cholinergic Urticaria get relief during summer months. Just be careful, and enjoy life hives-free while it lasts!
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Title: Re: Today gave me hope when i had lost it Post by: HivesGuy on May 08, 2010, 03:37:55 PM That is great that you have been able to exercise and so forth.
I have been sweating a lot lately due to the very high humidity. I can often go directly into it without hives! I love it.
But I know that when cool and dry weather come back, the hives probably will too. I will enjoy it while it lasts though.
Title: Re: Today gave me hope when i had lost it Post by: Snuff on May 08, 2010, 05:21:47 PM I know right isnt it awesome! I jogged today but mostly walked. it was quit breezy but i was out there for over 1 hour walking in the beautiful sunlight. smiling:D And when i got back i had mainly sweated in the same places. however i did have some sweat around my neck and more sweat on my scalpforehead. i was actually able to see the sweat on my head this time:) agh i need more humidity and less wind. But it is nice:)
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Title: Re: Quick question about Does your body rember how to sweat everyday once summer?? Post by: HivesGuy on May 21, 2010, 07:53:05 AM Hey Spanish89,
Quote However will i have to go through the 15-20mins of extreme rash and itching EVERY DAY to get the Cholinergic Urticaria done for that day??
Or
Will my body just remember how to sweat/and to do it staightaway when hot for the rest of the summer, as today will have set the body to be programmed to remember that now?
For me it is kinda in-between those two.
Some muggy days, I can go outside and I immediately sweat. It feels great and I can generally sweat all day.
Then on other days, (especially if it is cool or I haven’t been out in a few days), then I may feel prickly feelings for a few minutes. After that, it generally stops and I can sweat.
It is still technically spring, so I feel that during the extreme muggy mid-summer days, I will be sweating regularly and often. But only time will tell for sure.
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Title: Re: REALLY confused about sweating & Urticaria… Post by: HivesGuy on June 28, 2010, 03:13:29 PM Hey again,
Generally speaking, most of us find relief once the sweat finally comes out. Unfortunately, we sometimes have to endure a brutal attack and itch like crazy before this happens. Then, when it is over, we can generally sweat for the remainder of the day without experiencing hives as strongly (or sometimes not at all for the next 12 hours or so).
I always like to be very careful when the topic of “sweating it out” comes up, because in all honesty we are different. One person may be able to easily sweat and they only get a few prickles/itches. Others may endure a very painful attack that persists for several minutes before they sweat. Other Cholinergic Urticaria sufferers may not ever be able to sweat in some cases. Others may even be at risk for going into anaphylactic shock wh en they have an attack of Cholinergic Urticaria (it is rare, but does happen with some people). So please keep all of those things in mind. If you ever feel faint or like your throat is swelling, seek medication attention immediately.
I have a fairly strong case of it, and I have noticed that, yes, the hives do stop and sweat happens when I get hot enough. Sometimes (on super hot/humid days), the sweat comes fairly easily. Other days, it can nearly ruin my whole day trying to suffer with the unbearable sensations.
When I sweat regularly, the sweating happens easily. If I have been locked in my office working for days without exercise or heat exposure, then I will probably face a strong attack before the sweat comes out.
So my basic advice is this: Yes, the hives generally stop for us once we sweat. However, sweating can sometimes be easy, hard, impractical, or deadly. So just be careful.
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Title: Using a Shower to help you Sweat Post by: Enfade on July 09, 2010, 07:42:28 AM Hello there, this is pretty much my first post on the forum, and I wanted to share a little tip that I’ve been using recently. We know for a fact that when we actually sweat, our outbreaks pretty much stop and we aren’t bothered as long as we’re sweating. We also have the suspicion that the more often we can actually sweat, the more our symptoms seem to improve. Now, getting ourselves to sweat can be very painful or bothersome, as if we do try it, we may just stop due to outbreaks or what not, so we just give up.
Now, what I recommend is a technique to encourage sweating; if you think you may be endangered by forcing yourself to sweat, please do not try this. There are other ways to encourage sweating, but I’d rather reduce the risk of someone becoming overheated or being endangered.
I’ve found that using a hot shower (indirectly) works very well for this. What I’ve done is after I’ve soaped myself up and rinsed well, I back away from the showerhead and turn the water temperature almost to max heat. DO NOT STAND IN THE WATER, I REPEAT, DO NOT STAND VERY CLOSE OR IN THE WATER. Make sure your feet are comfortably away from the splatter of the showerhead. What will eventually happen is that the heat of the shower will rise, provoking you to sweat due to that type of environment. You can close the drapes tightly to improve insulation.
What’s different here than in any other case? First off, you have control of you conditions; if it gets too painful, you can turn the cold water on by reaching around the stream and lowering it, then tilting the showerhead onto your body (be cautious while doing this, please). The cold water will stop your itching extremely quickly. If you want extra help, biting into a clean rag while its happening can actually help (pain suppression technique, I guess). When I’m doing this, and the hives come on, I simply try to stay focused and simply try to NOT itch, just standing there silently and focusing on something in my head. Eventually, the pain should die down, if not completely, then you can bathe yourself in cool water to wash off any sweat and relieve yourself. If it hurts too much, simply turn the cold water on and stop; don’t push yourself over the edge if you don’t need to.
I think a regimen of doing this on and off for a week or two could improve the reactions we get, as Hivesguy has even said the more he gets out and sweats, the more bearable or less frequent his reactions are. I’ve been aware of this myself, and I actually find it working. The last 2 days have been surreal and more pleasant for me, even in the middle of summer. If anyone tries this method, please tell me how the experience was, and if you continue to try it, how your reactions are.
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Title: sweat cream? is this dumb? Post by: Chrissy on October 12, 2010, 10:39:37 AM My patient yesterday told me that she works out with a good weight loss sauna suit & puts a sweat cream on as well. I looked up the sweat cream and found one online. It’s product description says “…greatly accelerates and enhances circulation and sweating during your workout. Increasing heat production to “slow to respond”, insulating fatty tissue areas. Creates a “Portable Sauna-Like” Environment, accelerates warm-up and injury recovery time, making your workout feel easier. Helps to prevent muscle injury.”
Has anybody tried either the sauna suit or the cream? Is this a waste of money? I’m thinking that it probably won’t help me sweat anymore & may make me feel the hives faster… BUT, I get hives every time I work out, so its not that much of a difference. :-
Thanks!
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Title: SWEAT BEFORE Cholinergic Urticaria Post by: mozartthekat on February 17, 2011, 06:00:50 AM
Alright, alright. I’ll admit it. I’ll go first. I used to sweat a lot before I got Cholinergic Urticaria. Not crazy dripping sweat you see in the movies, but yeah give me a hard workout and you’ll see this chicka with a wet t-shirt. Of course not white! LoL!!!
I remember how I used to think, “ugh, I’m at this club and although I can dance really great…I’m sweating so much. What is wrong with me?” But then again, I would look at the other girls dancing around me and they were not dancing as much or as intricate as I was. I would get maybe a little itchy but no hives. It would be itchiness due to feeling my sweat down the side of my face as I was running on the treadmill or something else to that affect.
Now, I can sweat a little bit but not as much. My skin doesn’t like it. My skin hates it when the air is humid. Oh gosh, that’s the worst. I can’t breathe and everything is warm and moist…ugh! I’m getting itchy just thinking of it.
Also, did you know you sweat when you swim? Yes you do! Maybe that is the reason why I can’t swim in a pool for more than 10 minutes. That is the maximum amount of time I can be in there. I tried going swimming as the sun was setting one summer day and horrible hives appeared everywhere. I almost started crying right then and there. :-[ I called for my boyfriend to bring TWO TOWELS to cover me. :oThey were that bad. I was in the school pool and was soooo embarrassed. He told me not to care. He said he didn’t mind. It was just an allergy nothing more than that. I tried to still have fun in the pool and sat on the steps. After 5 minutes I got up and the whole area behind my legs were bright hot pink! The hives were the size of my palms! In addition more little hives appeared everywhere. This is after taking Zyrtec 15 minutes before going in the pool.
I cried in his arms when we got to my apartment. :'( I felt like a monster. He assured me I wasn’t one. I hugged him close and relaxed as I felt his heart beat with mine. ๐
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Title: How does sweat therapy work? Post by: nowash on May 17, 2011, 09:56:25 PM I have a question to ask all the ChU’ers who were cured from sweat therapy: Do you have to keep exercising to stay cured or are some of you permanently cured?
Do you sometimes still feel a slight itch or is there no sensation with sweating? When you sweat, what does it feel like? I notice when I take MSM sweating feels like a syringe being depressed. When I don’t take it, it varies between a blister-popping sensation and a pin prick, along with itching of course. What does yours feel like?
I wonder what sweat therapy actually does. Does it deplete mast cells? Does it clear plugged sweat ducts? If it permanently cures you maybe it’s like allergy shots and you are actually tolerant to your sweat again. That is assuming it is an IgE-antigen reaction. This is assuming SWEAT is even the problem.
I’m eagerly awaiting HG’s next blog post to see what his new hypothesis is. I bought some syringes from the pharmacy to use to see if my sweat is causing the problem. The technicians were very helpful; I thought they’d think of me as a druggie. I wouldn’t know how to fix this disease if it is an allergy. Allergy shots work for other allergens, and even though in one study they worked for ChU, I don’t understand how sweating naturally would be any different from injecting it into your skin. I was thinking today that the one study we need the most is comparing remissed ChU patients to currently affected ChU patients.
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Title: Re: How does sweat therapy work? Post by: Duper on May 18, 2011, 05:16:15 AM It seems some other people don’t get attacks anymore after consistent exercising; but I’ve kept a daily exercise routine for years and I still break out at last once a day during exercise.
It stings like hell, my skin gets very red, dry, and very rough. But eventually (if I go hard enough), the sweat just pours out. I was thinking about taking a picture of my shirt post-workout the other day.
I imagine it’s a combination of both depleting histamines in your body and clearing sweat ducts. After I break an intense sweat, I don’t get attacks for the rest of the day, but exercise is not a permanent cure in my experience.
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Title: Re: How does sweat therapy work? Post by: Slick1020 on May 18, 2011, 01:36:35 PM Do you put lotion on your skin before you workout? I use Aveeno with oatmeal essence. Right after I shower, I put on that lotion so it quickly absorbs into my skin. How often do you work out? You said daily…1,2,3 or 5 times a week? Are you walking, running, or riding a bike? Do you perform your activities in a gym or outside?
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Title: Re: How does sweat therapy work? Post by: Duper on May 19, 2011, 03:01:39 AM Quote from: Slick1020 on May 18, 2011, 01:36:35 PM Do you put lotion on your skin before you workout? I use Aveeno with oatmeal essence. Right after I shower, I put on that lotion so it quickly absorbs into my skin. How often do you work out? You said daily…1,2,3 or 5 times a week? Are you walking, running, or riding a bike? Do you perform your activities in a gym or outside?
No lotion. 7 days a week (cardio in the morning, lift weights in the afternoon). I run (both on the treadmill and outside) on average 50 miles a week.
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Title: Re: How does sweat therapy work? Post by: Duper on May 26, 2011, 06:42:05 AM Quote from: Duper on May 18, 2011, 05:16:15 AM It seems some other people don’t get attacks anymore after consistent exercising; but I’ve kept a daily exercise routine for years and I still break out at last once a day during exercise.
It stings like hell, my skin gets very red, dry, and very rough. But eventually (if I go hard enough), the sweat just pours out. I was thinking about taking a picture of my shirt post-workout the other day.
I imagine it’s a combination of both depleting histamines in your body and clearing sweat ducts. After I break an intense sweat, I don’t get attacks for the rest of the day, but exercise is not a permanent cure in my experience.
Missed 2 days of working out (no physical activity) since it’s good for your CNS, joints, muscles, etc to take some time off. My body exploded in hives today while showering. These next few days are going to be hell (I plan to rest for a week).
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Title: Re: How does sweat therapy work? Post by: daddeo on June 12, 2011, 05:19:32 PM Duper, As a wrestling coach and the father of a 16 year old Cholinergic Urticaria sufferer… I have enjoyed reading your posts. For the past 2 weeks we have picked up the pace on excercise and increased water intake. I wanted to share some excercises we do, maybe you can mix up your routine? Anyway, mind you my son wrestles and is training for high level comp., but one excercise we do he really likes is at the park. He jogs an easy mile to warm up. I made a drag sled out of a duffle bag with 2 six pound medicine balls in it, tie it with a rope to a seat belt around his waist…. He does 40 yd sprints dragging the weights then he does a battling rope excercise. I recommend searching out battling ropes and watching a few routines found on youtube. This excercise gets the heart rate up quick, it’s fun, and the sweat pours… Anyway, we jog some days for longer runs, do the park workout with the ropes and sprints on other days, do weight lifting on other days… Be creative and mix it up… As a former distance runner, I’m now 47 and can’t run more than a few miles at a time due to the years of pounding and my own body make up. I miss it terribly, but aprox. 2-3 miles three times a week is all I can muster now without knee pain and other quirks…
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Title: i havent had a sweat for a year, will making my body sweat make my urticaria go Post by: joshdeath on June 13, 2011, 04:02:02 AM i was thinking off going to the steam room and staying in there aslong as humanly possible, i no after 2 mins off going in there i will have that horrible prickly feling all over my top half and will want to scratch the hell out off my body and will probaly be going crazzy in there , but if making your body sweat gets rid off this horrible condition i would rather go through 30 mins off terrible pain and the 30 longest and most stressful and horrible mins off my life to make it go ๐
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Title: Re: i havent had a sweat for a year, will making my body sweat make my urticaria go Post by: HivesGuy on June 13, 2011, 04:38:55 AM Sweating doesn’t necessarily rid yourself of this condition. Some people on this forum still sweat and have this. But in some people with Cholinergic Urticaria, regular sweating does minimize the symptoms.
If you are going to try an exercise routine, or get into a steam room, then I highly recommend you take proper precautions to make sure you dont’ have a very serious attack. You may want to have an epi pen, an adult with you, talk to a doctor first, etc. just to be safe.
If you have a very severe case of Cholinergic Urticaria, then you may not be able to get the sweat out in 1 sitting. So you may want to listen to your body and not push yourself too bad.
Best of luck
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Title: Re: i havent had a sweat for a year, will making my body sweat make my urticaria go Post by: Darkhorse on July 07, 2011, 09:32:01 AM I would only ever get the hives up until I could actually break a sweat as of recently I have been messing around with T3 and im sweating a lot easier and more frequently I feel it has helped a lot
Im gonna come off my meds and put my money where my mouth is to see if it actually does anything
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Title: The larger body mass you are carrying the easier you will sweat Post by: Darkhorse on July 07, 2011, 09:45:37 AM
Weather it be in the form of muscle mass or adipose tissue (fat)
In turn the easier it is to deal with the condition Why?
Most people here have no problem with Cholinergic Urticaria once they break a sweat
I’m not telling you to turn obese but I though it was an intriguing observation
Discuss
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Title: Re: The larger body mass you are carrying the easier you will sweat Post by: juliapenguin on September 07, 2011, 03:11:18 AM I was pretty skinny when I first started with Cholinergic Urticaria – 23 years on I’m enormous, partly because the Cholinergic Urticaria is so bad when I exercise or even just walk gently. Being fatter certainly hasn’t helped me to sweat >:( ——————————–
Title: Sweating with Cholinergic Urticaria: Sweat Can Help Post by: ihavecu on November 15, 2011, 06:55:50 PM Hi Guys! How are you all? I hope you guys are doing a little bit better :). Cholinergic Urticaria can be a real pain in the butt. Anyway I have had trouble sweating since last year but managed to find something that can help me! What is it you ask? A body shape wrap. It is usually blue on one side and black on the other. You wrap it around your stomach and is kept on by velcro. I have been using this to help me sweat for the last 5 months. I am able to sweat on my back and eventually my forehead and armpits. I run in the morning and the rest of the day I am all good but if I don’t then the Cholinergic Urticaria will come back. I hope this helps its not a cure but it will help the symptoms go away. If you have any questions please ask and I will answer them to the best of my knowledge. Have a hive free day.
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Title: Drugs for sweating Post by: Daniel_S on November 18, 2011, 12:55:35 AM First of all I`m from germany, therefore pardon me should I make some grammar mistakes.
As many people reported, cholinergic urticaria can be fought by exercise and sweating. The hardening strategy worked out well for me and since I have been visiting a sauna club I`ve gained some controle. A few month ago I took Ritalin for ADD treatment. Ritalin can cause sweating and it indeed was helpfull in order to control the symptoms. Perhaps other medications which can cause sweating could be an even greater help. It might be a good idea to talk with your doctor about.
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Title: Re: Using a Shower to help you Sweat Post by: lowkey on December 27, 2011, 03:39:01 PM I have recently tried this so I could tolerate going to the gym, and before it started getting really bad, I would be able to induce sweating and then I could do other physical activities, but lately my anhidrosis has become so bad that even standing in the shower with the water at the hottest it will get for 20 minutes will hardly make me sweat at all ๐
I just don’t think it gets hot enough. Maybe 90F at the most, whereas a sauna may reach 150F or more. I do wish my gym had a Sauna, but unfortunately it does not ๐
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Title: Re: Drugs for sweating Post by: VIP on January 01, 2012, 01:09:35 PM Quote from: Daniel_S on November 18, 2011, 12:55:35 AM First of all I`m from germany, therefore pardon me should I make some grammar mistakes.
As many people reported, cholinergic urticaria can be fought by exercise and sweating. The hardening strategy worked out well for me and since I have been visiting a sauna club I`ve gained some controle. A few month ago I took Ritalin for ADD treatment. Ritalin can cause sweating and it indeed was helpfull in order to control the symptoms. Perhaps other medications which can cause sweating could be an even greater help. It might be a good idea to talk with your doctor about.
Only helpful if you have Cholinergic Urticaria due to sweat allergy, the theory behind this is that you can cause desensitization to a certain degree.
If you have Cholinergic Urticaria due to poral occlusion or as a result of AGH then the only thing your going to be doing is increasing your risk of getting heat stroke.
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Title: SWEATING is the key! Post by: HeatLad on April 29, 2012, 03:59:14 PM
Hey guys i am Ryan and i am 17 i have had urticaria for two years. i used to sweat so much at 13 14 15, every day! but when i got to 16 i got really bad sports migraines and if i ran a few metres i would nearly pass out! i didn’t do any sport for a year! so A heart without sweating properly head to toe then after my migraines cleared up i couldn’t sweat! i would just get itchy and when i get embarrassed or nervous so what have i been taking? ALLEGRA AND A MULTI VITAMIN i have been on both of these for 3 weeks now and i still itch! ๐ i saw someone post about the wonders of allegra (fexofenadine) and i was so happy i almost cried at the prospect of being cured by this! i went to the doctors proud as punch and 3 weeks later it still hasn’t helped me. solution I have gone form sweating nearly every day profusely! to nothing at all. SO i am getting a cheap treadmill in my house and I’m going to run every single god dam day guys! EVERY DAY. i will not stop until i sweat because i want this gone! my mum said: Ryan are you sure you will actually do this? i replied with: i have never been more sure of something in my life honestly i would do bad things to get rid of this, it is a crippling disease that deserves more recognition so silly doctors can know what to give. so yes guys sorry this is long but SWEAT. GET SWEATING! get a treadmill in your house so if you break out in hives you are there on your own or with family so you won’t get embarrassed because my family are very supportive of my urticaria! seriously guys do it! ๐ i LOVE YOU ALL! WE WILL BEAT THIS GUYS!